PRE_Packaged Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 First things first... Hello to all Bitcomet coders and support staff, thank you all for your hard work.... We shifted from 1.26 to 1.27 and have had a difficult time on all of our computers at all of our locations. I will focus on one-system to try and help you to help us. Workstation hardware Red Fox 880 G+ X2-250e AMD Processor 2-GB DDR-3 640 GB 7200 RPM Samsung HDD BIOS setting changed to ACP-3 BIOS setting changed to LAN-Wake EDIMAX Router DHCP server disabled Workstation software XP-SP3 Pro currently updated MS Windows Firewall We setup the UPnP User Interface. Internet Connection Properties/Advanced Settings are setup for BitComet TCP and UDP services, as well as services for ED2K. JAVA Adobe reader Adobe plugins and Active-X components MS 2007 ACAD 2010 Mozilla Firefox Café Joe - Session manager BitComet 1.27, plus the current E-Mule adder Garrena messenger for DOTA players Yahoo messenger Skype Approximately 500 plus links, game links to our servers, the games are LAN/Online and standalone and are ran from the server disks and workstation cached files. Each workstation is setup with a manual IP This one in this discussion was setup as follows’ IP Address 192.168.1.1 Mask 255.255.255.0 Default gateway 192.168.1.254 DNS1 192.168.1.254 We created a set of registry Codifier keys that are merged to protect the Run from paths and to restrict the ability for any installers to unpack. We have never had a malicious program run on any of our machines since Windows 95, we also use a driver that allows us to enable Disk Protection so when our systems are restarted nothing of the Users activates remain, this driver is controlled by our Session timing manager, a workstation cannot be placed into Disk Commit update mode if a user session has ran. We have never installed virus or malicious software on any of our systems. We have never needed that redundant protection. On this specific workstation we pulled the HDD out and scanned it from a separate system designed for 3rd party trouble shooting, no issues were found, excluding the false positive related to P2P. From our point of view we cannot see any issues with this machine or any of our other machines, when we removed our Disk protection and uninstalled 1.27 and reinstalled 1.26 and commit the changes to our Disk everything works great. As of now we must run 1.26 but hope that you can code out the issue(s) with version 1.27, we have thousands of users many have asked us why we rolled back to 1.26. Please advice when resolved. PRE_Packaged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greywizard Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Well, you went through a great deal of effort describing very accurately your setup, but you said almost nothing at all about the actual issue. I'm not sure what to make of the very cryptic line in the topic's title. Do you mean that stopping a task crashes BC? If you could give an as detailed description of the issue, as you did for the setup I believe this would have a better chance of being addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRE_Packaged Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 My bad, sorry, new to this forum, I just realized that part of the text to the right of the title was trimmed. Yes stopping a task in BC 1.27 results in a fatal HANG then a forced End process is required to Kill it. A crash to me means an unhandled error and the app appears to not be running from the users’ Task Manager. I would not call what we are seeing a running crash, the crash occurs when the hang is terminated. Over a task within the listview area when we or a customer right clicks then selects from the context menu the Stop menu item the area where the Menu was is not redrawn basically leaving that area white. This is not our concern although all details may lead to discovery, our concern is that the workstation immediately becomes sluggish BitComet hangs but never just crashes. Sluggish means all apps and even the explorer may take up to a minute to respond or in some cases the Explorer itself crashes. Eventually BitComet throw’s up a notification related to not responding, if you choose close it may close. In some cases we have had to go to the process tab of the task manager to end BitComet and in some cases this has taken several tries to Kill it. I can have 1.27 reinstalled today on a few machine and leave access to eventvwr.msc to try and collect some additional details that may be useful. Please advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kluelos Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 First thing is to do as you have done, namely, revert to an earlier working version. This is well-known territory for us on the support staff. There was a drastic rewrite to a different codebase as of version 0.71, and that took quite a long time to work the bugs out of (it was necessary in order to do something unprecedented, namely the integration with Emule.) So much so that relaese 1.0 wasn't a Gold Master release, instead it was simply forced by the numbers, and is the beta release that comes after 0.99 and before 1.01, if you see what I mean. During this time, many people stayed with 0.70 because it was rock solid and reliable, and there have been no significant, generally-adopted changes to the bittorrent protocol since that time. I don't know that there has been a release as solid or reliable since then, even to date. I counsel you to stay with what works, and don't worry about whether you have the very latest version or not. Free software implies the lack of a testing staff or test harness that you'd expect with paid software. That absence means all new releases should be treated with trepidation. Every version of BitComet should be treated as guilty until proven innocent, that is, install new versions as a test, but be always ready to retreat to a previous known working version if defects appear. This is particularly true if you only want basic bittorrent features, and aren't concerned with things like the Scheduler or the Emule plugin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greywizard Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Are all your machines running XP SP3? Is the software configuration on all of them the same? I've been running all my BC versions on XP SP3 and had not encountered this. Neither had we any similar reports of this type with this version. So, while it may be something between BC and Windows, at the same time if the software configuration of all your machines is identical this could also mean that BC conflicts with one of the installed applications (even though there doesn't seem to be a lot installed). If you have the time, perhaps trying to install a fresh copy of XP SP3 with nothing else installed and see if BC exhibits the same behavior would help in clearing that this is not application-related. If it doesn't, then installing one piece of software at a time (and testing how BC works after each of these steps) may help pinpoint the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRE_Packaged Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 We have three system types. Asus GigaByte RedFox Each system type has the same hardware, and each type HDD was created from a master image. I have instructed three of our technicians to each use a Full XP installer and to install SP-3 from our MSSP3-CD, and to not connect the newly prepped units to any of our business ISP connections. I will pick each of workstations up and take them to my office and install the BC 1.27 after confirming that the systems only have a software configuration consisting of XP-SP3 and Microsoft Security Client, considering we will not use our protection on these test units. No other software will be installed and no peripheral devices connected except a Genius NetScroll 110X mouse and Genius 110 keyboard. I will let you know what the results are as we pursue your recommended action. Thank you, PRE_Packaged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRE_Packaged Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 Follow-up, Resolved :lol: All three systems respond the same. We found that this IS NOT simply a 1.27 issue, the issue is present in every version of BC we tried. When a user is finished using one of our rental computers that system will automatically be place into Standby using SetSuspendState True, False, True, when BitComet receives the broadcast PBT_APMQUERYSUSPEND message it does not respond. We found during our testing that a secondary problem exists with our USB Controller driver on all three systems. Some driver USB combinations are not Power management capable, when a user removes his/her USB immediately after entering Standby then a minute or a day later when the next user inserts a USB into the same port the Driver may not update the properties of the Device when resuming from Standby. When the user attempts to Hash check or resume a download the BC will hang. We added to our Session manager coding to stop BC tasks using objWbemServices prior to entering Standby, we also added a broadcast message to update all remote media immediately after resuming from standby. PRE_Packaged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greywizard Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Well, thanks for reporting back about this and sharing your experience with others. Most people don't bother to do that, as they're used only with taking and not so much with giving. I'm glad you managed to pinpoint the issue and to address it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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