Vasy

BitComet International (Non-English) Romana (Romanian Members)
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Vasy,

I need you to reply here with the names of the forum and subforums here, modeling them after the spanish section. Also include a Romanian and English description of each forum, and I will prepare them for you as soon as possible.

You should now see the moderator options at the bottom of each post that allows you to modify or edit any topic. I’m going to set this one as “unapproved”, meaning its hidden from site. When I’m finished setting up the basic forum structure, I will delete this topic.

You should also now be able to see the “staff” forum where I will make a post introducing you, please reply so you can meet the rest of our staff. We have very few at the moment, but that will change soon.

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Hi!

The forum name should be “Romanian forum” or “Romana (Romanian Members)”. I do not dare to use diacritics because they may not work for all, causing unneeded confusion.

subforums:

  1. “Suport tehnic (Technical support)”

“Aici cereti ajutor in legatura cu bitcomet (Request help with bitcomet related problems here)”

  1. “Ghiduri practice (Tutorials)”

“Doar pentru citire (Read only)”

  1. “Anunturi (Announcements)”

“Anunturi importante despre bitcomet si acest forum”

4)“Noi veniti (New members)”

“Faceti cunostinta cu restul comunitatii (Introduce yourself to the community)”

I am looking forward to your reply,

Cheers!

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Ok, I think I got everything like you want it now. Currently this section is a forum itself, with sub-forums in it, if you like I can change it to a category, so members can only post in the sub-forums. You might find it annoying if a lot of people post their questions here, instead of in the “tech support” subforum, but you can always move them.

Its upto you if you want topics here too.

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Hi, Vasy! :slight_smile:

Boy, are you going to get tired of me, lol! :lol:

Anyway, take everything that I say as suggestions, OK? If you have any doubts/concerns, ideas, etc., you can either post them here, or send me a PM - I’ll answer them, either way.

I just saw your two Guides, in the Tutorials. Good work! Unless Don says otherwise, you don’t have to translate the Guides into English - you’ll have enough to keep you busy, just translating them to Romanian, believe me… :slight_smile:

After pinning a new Guide/Tutorial, however, I do suggest that you Close (lock) the topic, so that no users can make additional posts in it (regardless of how many times we tell them not to do this, they always end up doing so). This will keep the Tutorial Section looking neat and tidy. :slight_smile: (I’ve already done that to your existing two.)

As Suspect says, you might want to move all future tech-related posts, yourself, while keeping this “general” section open, for “off” topics (for example, “how do I store all of my music in my pendrive?”, or something like that). I have it this way, in the Spanish section and, if a member posts in the ‘wrong’ place (or I deem it to belong in the Tech Support, instead), I can always move the topic myself. When you move any topic, I suggest that you don’t leave a forwarding icon, in the original thread (this just makes the forums look messy, and the users become lazy) - don’t worry, the original posters have the innate ability to find their “moved” posts, without any difficulty (and the added knowledge of the proper place to post). :wink:

continued in next post…

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Regarding the translations of posts:

As you, yourself, have already put into practice, I make use of two easy-to-read colours (blue=Spanish and green=English). Try to keep them, just that - easy to read and not very ‘loud’ (phosphorescent/neon colours, end up ‘doing a number’ on the eyes, when reading all of the posts, every night). Always use the same colour for the same language, and don’t be afraid to Edit a user’s font and/or colour, if you think that it’s not suitable for comfortable reading (sometimes, new users like to experiment with different font styles, colours and sizes, and they look more like advertisements, than posts, lol). The only exception to this that we’ve ever made, was due to a user being visually impaired. Never let them post all in capital letters (you and I know this, but, sometimes they ‘forget’…). Don’t re-do their post… just let them know.

After translating a user’s post, use the Fast Reply to add " translation completed ". This will let the rest of the Staff know that the user’s post has been translated and/or replied to (by you), and they can either reply or add to your response. Once the topic has been replied to, and you have already finished translating said reply, go back to your " translation completed " post and Delete it. This way, the thread looks like a ‘regular’ and clean conversation, between two or more members, and is easy to read and follow.

I imagine that, as in French and Spanish, sometimes the user’s posts cannot be directly translated (due to the inability of the poster to properly describe his situation, or because of his less-than-perfect grammar/spelling/whatever, etc.). When this happens, I will use the “” square brackets to include the “intended” meaning of the translation.

As an example:

Original post:

cuando las paso a una memoria USB para reproducir en el DVD de la TV o incluso en el mismo PC, la peli se corta/acaba cuando lleva una hora y media aproximadamente

Direct translation:

when I pass to a USB memory to reproduce in the TV’s DVD or even in the same PC, the movie cuts itslef/ends when it goes an hour and a half approximately

My translation:

when I copy them onto a USB memory [stick/pendrive?] [so that they can be] played on the [standalone] DVD, or even on the computer, the movie will cut off/end after about one and a half hours

See the difference?

Anyway, I think that this is enough, for tonight (it’s 5:00 a.m.), so I’ll let you take a ‘breather’… :lol: As I think of more things, I’ll let you know.

G’nite :slight_smile:

PS: I’m going to move some other Guides/Tutorials to this forum (I’ll make them all “invisible”, so rest easy…), so that you can - time permitting - work on them (right beneath each one, if you want - this way, your name will appear as their ‘author’/ having translated them), until they’re ready to be pinned. There’s no rush, so don’t panick, OK? :wink:

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I like it the way it is Don. I’ll move any topic that does not fit in it’s subforum. As for penalties, i know that every forum has it’s own rules, and I’ve never been fond of making assumptions. how do i punish and for what? Or do I only have to warn other, more experienced, staff members and let them handle it? I don’t see any tutorial for this. if there is one,I’m sorry, please direct me to it. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not the bann lust type, and the faster i know about this the less chance there is for me to do something I’ll regret.

Cheers!

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Hi Cassie!

Don’t worry about that, I like challenging women :lol:

Ok,I’ll translate only posts made by the users and make a new reply in them saying “translation completed”.

I’ll translate and move the off topics to the “General Questions” forum.

I don’t see the point in using the brackets… the translation is for the staff members and non-romanian users, and i have to make them understand the point of the topic not just directly translate everything. If the user that made the topic does not use technical terms correctly it doesn’t mean I have to point out every single mistake.

I’m working on the guides on my pc using Microsoft Office Word 2007 and I’ve encountered a major slow down in making them due to the use of the diacritics…the d*** letters are starting to annoy me as i don’t have a full office keyboard with them included. I have to use shortcuts that interfere with the editor’s shortcuts and I often get flooded with pop-ups that just make me toss the monitor out the window…

I see that you use spanish diacritics too.. do you have any helpful tips to pass on? :smiley:

I am also trying to dumb them down as much as I can to make them understandable for everyone…

Regarding the font colors, I find blue fonts hard to read too. I’ll use black for romanian and green for english because it’s the most eye friendly color.

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Hi, Vasy.

I don’t see the point in using the brackets… the translation is for the staff members and non-romanian users, and i have to make them understand the point of the topic not just directly translate everything. If the user that made the topic does not use technical terms correctly it doesn’t mean I have to point out every single mistake.

As I said before, all of my comments are suggestions. No, I didn’t mean to imply that you had to point out every single mistake, by any means.

What I meant was that, after many years of translating and interpreting, I have come accross many a “user” (client, in the real world) who, for whatever reason, did not know how to be explicitly clear in his description of something. Unless I directly asked him** **(before interpreting/translating it to the other language) exactly what it was that he meant, the content of what he first said could have been ‘mis-translated’ or ‘taken another way’, by the receiving client. Proper translating/interpreting is not only the direct translation of the words, as you well know, but also the context in which they are transmitted and received, and all of the ensuing (sometimes, subtle) innuendos, particular to each culture.

I see that you use spanish diacritics too.. do you have any helpful tips to pass on?

Sorry. Mine is a Microsoft keyboard, specifically designed for the Spanish market. I seem to remember (not right now, of course… lol) that in both XP and '98 there was a function that enabled the configuration of a ‘virtual keyboard’ on your screen, where you could assign “special” diacritics to your physical keyboard… Does your OS/Office have anything like that?

As for penalties, i know that every forum has it’s own rules, and I’ve never been fond of making assumptions. how do i punish and for what?

Well, Don won’t let us use the whips and chains, anymore (and I don’t like to spoil my manicure)… :stuck_out_tongue: Seriously, though, besides the almost-international Forum Rules, what other rules would you like to see being followed in the new forum? Will you permit members to post in SMS-style (we had a lot of this in the French and Spanish forums, at the beginning) - not everyone is used to deciphering them (our members’ ages spanned from the very young - 9/10 - to the ‘golden age’ - a few were past 70/80)? Or will you politely-yet-firmly tell them that their keyboard will not wear out prematurely, if they use full words, sentences, and punctuation…? :stuck_out_tongue: Would you prefer it if someone else handled the “problems”?

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hi!

I get your point, but I’ll translate the post after I ask the user to be more specific, leaving no room for ambiguity.

If you are referring to the program located at Start/All Programs/Accessories/Accessibility/On-screen Keyboard, it does not have the option to bind a specific special character to a specific key so it is useless for me..

The romanian keyboard has the characters I want but the layout is changed a lot. The best one I could find around here is the logitech g15 at the price of 80euro but for now I’m not annoyed enough to waste money on that. I’ll look for something that turns the numpad or something into programmable soft keys.

To put it more clearly I have asked how much do I punish. My experience on forums, so far, tells me as follows:

Shouting or illiterate dialogue out of ignorance > 1 warning via reply/pm;

Impolite behavior > 1 warning via reply/pm

Flaming for the first time > 1 warning via reply/pm;

Flaming for the second time > +1 warn status;

Flaming for the third time > short term bann;

Flaming for the fun of it > long term bann.

Advertising small a personal site > +1warn status

Advertising a site as part of a the advertised site’s staff > short term bann

Advertising a pay site or a top list forced vote link > long term bann

SPAM > permanent bann

Please correct me where I’m wrong. The reason why I ask this is because some romanians might brake the rules in romanian so it’s hard for others to tell legit posts from spam.

Thanks!!

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Howdy!

The best one I could find around here is the logitech g15 at the price of 80euro

80 €!! I wouldn’t spend that much on a keyboard either… Mine was about 20 € (I had pulled apart my old LG to clean it, one day, but after I had finished, it wouldn’t work properly… maybe it needed all of the fuzz-balls and grunge to work properly?? B) )

Unless the Admins have new plans for this, since we are only Mods (Admins were the only ones that could “ban”, before, we could only “restrict”), this is what I used to do, in the past:

Shouting or illiterate dialogue out of ignorance → “remind” user to not post all in capital letters, as it’s considered shouting (not very polite), via Reply

Impolite behavior → depending on how impolite the user is, you can either send a PM (I used to c.c. Don), or politely “point it out” to him/her, in a Reply

Flaming for 1st time–> 1 warning via reply + a PM to Don

Flaming for the 2nd time–> +1 warn status, 1st Official Warning via PM (with c.c. Don)

Flaming for the 3rd time–> 2nd Official Warning via PM (with c.c. Don), increase Warn Status, Disable Posting Abilities Indefinitely

Flaming for the fun of it–> PM Don, increase Warn Status, Disable Posting Abilities Indefinitely

Advertising small a personal site–> Blogs are OK, anything else (for profit) = Delete/edit post, PM user with a Warning (c.c. Don), increase Warn Status. If there is a 2nd time, proceed as for Flaming for 3rd time.

Advertising a site as part of a the advertised site’s staff–> (Do you mean as if I were spamming as Staff from another site?) = Delete/edit post, PM user with a Warning (c.c. Don), increase Warn Status.

Advertising a pay site or a top list forced vote link–> Delete post, increase Warn Status (I guess that we’d also “Flag as Spammer”, now, too), PM Don , Disable Posting Abilities Indefinitely.

SPAM–> Delete post, increase Warn Status (I guess that we’d also “Flag as Spammer”, now, too), PM Don , Disable Posting Abilities Indefinitely.

Both in the case of Flaming (improper/rude language) and Advertising, I usually add something to the effect that “it is a violation of the Forum Rules, that they agreed to, when they first signed up”, in the Reason for Edit (bottom of the Editing page), so that other users can see, as well. You can also edit improper language, outright, by either deleting their text or by ‘editing’ it to read as a “G-rated” post (something that you wouldn’t mind if your kids saw it). This is also applicable to users’ signatures and avatars.

Now, even though non-English-speaking users usually do not read the (English) Forum Rules, most (if not all) forums - world-wide - share the same basic Rules/Norms… so they are generally well aware of them, at any rate.

I hope that this helps. :slight_smile:

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hi!

Thanks! Got it.

(I had pulled apart my old LG to clean it, one day, but after I had finished, it wouldn’t work properly… maybe it needed all of the fuzz-balls and grunge to work properly?? B) )
To fix that you need to remove the back cover, gently remove the circuits board, clean it with isopropyl alcohol (isopropanol) or some other type of alcohol and let it dry. When I clean my keyboard I don’t remove the buttons I just use the vacuum cleaner at max power. (well, almost max power. I don’t wanna lose something, again..) This only works on keyboards that have small spaces between the buttons.
(Do you mean as if I were spamming as Staff from another site?)
I am referring to when a user states something like this: “Come and sign up for this awesome site! when you do, report to “*****” and maybe I’ll make you a member of my dream team!” :lol: this usually happens when a site owner “recommends” to his staff to go hunt some users because the user/visitor counts are going too low… It’s easier (for the owner) to do this than to improve his site.

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hi!

Thanks! Got it.

To fix that you need to remove the back cover, gently remove the circuits board, clean it with isopropyl alcohol (isopropanol) or some other type of alcohol and let it dry. When I clean my keyboard I don’t remove the buttons I just use the vacuum cleaner at max power. (well, almost max power. I don’t wanna lose something, again..) This only works on keyboards that have small spaces between the buttons.

Oh I did all of that… and removed all of the buttons (managed to put them all back in their proper places, too, lol). It just wouldn’t react to any key-pressing after I turned the power back on (ie. plugging it back into the ‘tower’/whatever-it’s-called-in English, where the CPU is stored)…

I am referring to when a user states something like this: “Come and sign up for this awesome site! when you do, report to “*****” and maybe I’ll make you a member of my dream team!” :lol: this usually happens when a site owner “recommends” to his staff to go hunt some users because the user/visitor counts are going too low… It’s easier (for the owner) to do this than to improve his site.

Nah. Just consider it Spam, outright (make sure to delete his sign-up links, at least). I’m sure that they wouldn’t be too happy if someone else did that at his site. Heck, delete his links and boldly tell him about not heeding the Forum Rules (I’m sure that he has them, too). :stuck_out_tongue: